
Interview
with Vrana Hempstead*
We tracked down Douglas Milburn at his small mountain
redoubt In New Mexico. In the valley north of Jemez Springs, his rustic cabin ("A 19th
century miners relic," he says) is homebase for eight months of the year.
Winters find him in Key West.
While Filicide, which was initially published in the
United States in 1982, has never found a large audience, the audience it has found has
been passionate about this strangely disturbing book. A member of the editorial board of
an Ivy League press to which Milburn submitted the manuscript responded with a smudged,
overwritten single-spaced diatribe about how
"This book must never see the light of day. It
would be a danger to right-thinking people everywhere."
In contrast, the German edition found a small, committed
audience among the culturally disaffected. Blalla Hallmann came to refer to Filicide
as his "bible" and did a series of large paintings inspired by it.
Milburn these days is so strangely distanced from his
magnum opus that he was at first reluctant to grant an interview. "The book stands,
or doesnt stand, entirely on its own terms. I made the argument, admittedly quite
radical, as clearly as I could. What more need be said?"
Quite a bit, it turns out, as you will see. The interview
took place over three days, with many interruptions for Hempsteads complex business
life, which he conducts via the internet. Of an evening, he would drag us up the road to
the Jemez hot springs for an hour or two of sundown relaxation.
Has the time come for the book to experience a cultural
breakout? Even after re-reading it, and after spending days with its author, were
still not sure. Judge for yourself.
--Doc Cuddy.
Magellan's Log: Can we get the business of your
name out of the way up front? People see your first name and always think youre
Scottish.
DM (smiling): I assure you, the mistakeand
the teasingstarted in first grade, before first grade actually. My father was that
common American mix of English-Scottish-Irish-who-knows-what. So you get
"Milburn," "mill" as in "mill", "burn" as in
"spring" or "stream".
ML: But the name and peoples reactions to it had
nothing, you think, to do with your winding up writing a book which pretty much stands a
lot of modern psychology relating to gender on its head?
DM: I dont think so
Perhaps nows
the time for the backstory of Filicide. How it came to be. Believe me, the book, as
it turned out, was a big surprise to me. So. Heres the story, which, by the way,
Ive never told in print, and have in fact shared with only a couple of family
members.
We start with my father. Im acutely aware
that Filicide can be read as a personal attack by the author on his own parents. At
the same time, its my experience that such a view actually reveals more about the
critics relationship to his or her own parents. After all, theres nothing
direct in the book about my parents, so an outsider can only infer rather large problems.
In hindsight, with the distance of some years, my
own childhood looks rather benign, ifgiven the thesis of Filicideone
can use that adjective about any childhood. Of course there were problems. Two specific
physical problems. I was circumcized at birth, being part of the long American generation
in mid-20th century which accepted the AMAs anti-foreskin judgment
unquestioningly. And I was whipped, pants down, with a large leather belt, rather
severely, repeatedly, for both small and large infractions, until around the age of ten.
ML: So there was physical abuse.
DM: Yes. But on the whole no more, and probably
quite a bit less, than that experienced by many, many boys around the world both then and
now. On the other side of the coin, I received a great deal of loving attention and
support, emotional and financial, from my family. Yes, I have things to complain about, as
do we all. And yes, I was bitter and angry as a young adult about the circumcision and the
beatings.
Not until I was in my thirties did I verbally
confront my father concerning what he had done. He was in his early 70s, a couple of years
from death, still in possession of his faculties. The conversation started smoothly but he
quickly moved into his quick temper, not shouting but showing the body language of nearly
out-of-control anger (Marines we shall always have with us). Words flew back and forth. We
finally both fell silent. I got up and left, went outside, got in the car, and started
driving. I just wanted to be away for awhile.
It was near sunset, in November, somewhere--let's
just say in mid-continent. Driving in the brown, barren countryside of early winter, with
little traffic, under a darkening, hazy sky, I was suddenlythats the
wordit was the sheer abruptness of the feeling that was so unsettling
I was
suddenly overcome by a huge fear that when I went back, my father would shoot and kill me.
I knew he kept a handgun in the bedside table. I was instantly trembling, breathing fast,
with tears in my eyes.
The fear was there, but at the same time, I
was standing apart from it, watching it, and me. I was frightened, but I was also
astonished, puzzled, and intrigued. And as suddenly as the fear had come, I understand in
an instant what I was experiencing: a replay of infantile emotion, the feelings of the
tiny baby in a crib, either being spoken to harshly, or in a room where adults were
arguing loudly and incomprehensibly. The fear of helplessness, unable to understand what
was happening, unable to communicate, unable to do anything about it.
That was the moment, what I came to call "the
primal moment" in the book, when I grasped what we have all experienced as infants,
and began to understand what that huge fear means in terms of limiting and closing off our
growth and development as individuals and as societies.
As helpless infants, we all at some point
experience the awful terror of possible annihilation by the huge, powerful creatures who
have us in their control. It is the filicidal moment. Since we all have this experience,
and since it has been going on for a very long time, clearly some kind of adaptation, some
adjustment of the psyche must occur to deal with such fear. It is this massive adjustment,
a kind of battening of the psychic hatches, that I'm thinking of when I use the term
"filicide." That is, not physical murder, but psychological "murder."
The filicidal experience forces us to limit our virtually infinite mental potential to
such an extent that it has to be seen as a kind of killing.
Then book then became a review of evidence in our
oldest and biggest myths that such is in fact the case.
ML: But you went back, to you father.
DM: Of course. You see, part of that experience was
a clear realization that this fear I was experiencing really was irrational: my father
would not kill me. My parents loved me. Parents do love their children. Thats
why in Filicide I repeatedly emphasize that we are talking about unconscious acts
carried out with the best of intentions. Yes, I went back, and my father and I were
civil to each other. But we never brought up the subject of my childhood again.
ML: Which must have saddened you.
DM: Saddened, and for a time made me quite
pessimistic. Because as Filicide has made (or failed to make) its way in the world,
I have seen how many people are simply not ready to face the kind of unvarnished truth
which the book lays out. They often react with an anger which surprises even themselves.
Like that early editorial reader. I would say now I'm less pessimistic and more realistic.
I hope you people at Magellans Log are
prepared for some hate mail. I mean, I step on a lot of toes right up and down whole
spectra, from conservative to liberal, homosexual to heterosexual, female to male, not to
mention wading into the whole range of organized religious activity.
ML: Did I just glimpse a tiny grin of perhaps malicious
delight?
DM: Maybe you did. Given the pomposity of the
ignoramuses who run the world, or who want us to think they run the world, I cant
deny a bit of pleasure in undercutting such poseurs.
ML: How long did the writing take?
DM: About eight years. It went through countless
drafts. If I may, just a brief editorial aside: two friends, Chester Rosson and Barbara
Burnham, both editors, read an early version and made enormously helpful suggestions.
Since they are not mentioned in the book, I'm grateful for the oportunity here to publicly
acknowledge my great debt to them. Anyhow, as time passed, the more I thought about our
filicidal behavior, the more I realized this book had to, had to be as calm and gentle as
I could make it. No need for shouting here, no need for rancor, or preaching. Just the
facts, maam.
The early drafts were fairly angry, cutting,
andhard to believefunny in places. As the process of my understanding went on,
all that fell by the way. Evidence, maybe, of my own growing understanding of the
importance of forgiveness.
Early versions were also much longer. I did a lot
of reading in world mythology, and of course everywhere I looked, in every culture, I
found supporting examples. But in the end, it seemed best to limit myself to the really
famous mythic examples. So. A short book, a short, calm book.
ML: But a bombshell.
DM: Perhaps. But perhaps Im totally wrong.
Perhaps the whole idea is wrong-headed. Thats for the world to decide. We may be
much farther, as a species, from accepting this kind of self-analysis than I thought at
the time of writing. To the extent that I still think about the book as book, I see it as
a highly revealing litmus test, both for individuals and for us as a society. Either I'm
completely wrong, or that fact that Filicide is rejected out-of-hand only
indicates how right I am.
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The Mythic Reality of Childhood
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